


#327 Undergrove with Elizabeth Hargrave and Mark Wootton
Design TalkSeries
David is at the helm this week, joined by Elizabeth Hargrave (Wingspan, Mariposas) and Mark Wooton (Legend of the Five Rings, Mariposas). The trio discuss Elizabeth and Mark’s new game Undergrove, a resource management and tile placement game about building a mycelial and arboreal network. Topics include how Undergrove was developed, designing for the mushroom theme, Mark and Elizabeth’s relationship with nature, and how a competitive game can be developed without encouraging antagonistic relationships between players.
Episode Outline
0:00 Beginning of Show
1:24 End of Intro
2:00 Who is Elizabeth?
2:36 Who is Mark?
3:55 Why Mushrooms?
8:18 What is Undergrove?
11:43 How did Undergrove develop?
17:33 Design Process
28:32 Advice for Listeners
34:23 Would this game have been made without both of you?
41:40 Mushroom Talk
51:30 More about Undergrove
58:19 Advice for Listeners
1:04:13 Outro
1:05:29 End of Show
In this Episode
Elizabeth Hargrave - @elizhargrave, elizhargrave.com
Mark Wootton - @har1equin.bsky.social
David V. Heron - @davidvheron
Dirk Knemeyer - @DKnemeyer