Elizabeth Hargrave Mark Wootton

#327 Undergrove with Elizabeth Hargrave and Mark Wootton

Design Talk

Series


David is at the helm this week, joined by Elizabeth Hargrave (Wingspan, Mariposas) and Mark Wooton (Legend of the Five Rings, Mariposas). The trio discuss Elizabeth and Mark’s new game Undergrove, a resource management and tile placement game about building a mycelial and arboreal network. Topics include how Undergrove was developed, designing for the mushroom theme, Mark and Elizabeth’s relationship with nature, and how a competitive game can be developed without encouraging antagonistic relationships between players.

Episode Outline

0:00 Beginning of Show

1:24 End of Intro

2:00 Who is Elizabeth?

2:36 Who is Mark?

3:55 Why Mushrooms?

8:18 What is Undergrove?

11:43 How did Undergrove develop?

17:33 Design Process

28:32 Advice for Listeners

34:23 Would this game have been made without both of you?

41:40 Mushroom Talk

51:30 More about Undergrove

58:19 Advice for Listeners

1:04:13 Outro

1:05:29 End of Show

In this Episode

Elizabeth Hargrave - @elizhargrave, elizhargrave.com
Mark Wootton - @har1equin.bsky.social
David V. Heron - @davidvheron
Dirk Knemeyer - @DKnemeyer

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Team

Dirk Knemeyer Producer & Co-Host

David V. Heron Producer & Co-Host

Erik Ririe Producer

Avery Paez Editor

Kathryn Hymes Panelist

Alumni

Cole Wehrle Co-Host

Dave Nelson Audio Engineer

Harrison Pink Co-Host

Jon Shafer Co-Founder & Co-Host

Michael Hermes Audio Engineer

Rob Daviau Co-Host

Skye Larsen Producer & Editor

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